This might be wierd, but one of my first impressions from seeing the way they act and move around each other in this shot is that they look like a couple who has definitely been intimate. In other words, they look like a couple of young people who have definitely done the do…with each other.
which, come on, they’ve been with each other for 5 years and they’re 19/20 at this point, so that shouldn’t be a shocker, but I just kinda chuckle when I see fandom posts about whether or not these two are flirting. They look and act like a couple who is WAY past that phase.
So, I guess, yay Viking birth control? It’s obviously working.
(Yes but also in the viking culture that if they were to do anything of the sort before they were married Hiccup would be killed by Astrid’s family for he would have not only ‘dishonored’ her but her entire family as well. In order for them to be together he would have to pay her family a dowry of 8-12 gold pieces and they would be married within weeks after paying the dowry and most often viking couples did not marry for love. however hiccup and astrid are special case as they do love each other. Astrid is probably one of the most sought after girls in the village but she ignores all her other suitors and gives all her attention to Hiccup so it’d be no shocker that the two would be married. Hiccup would be allowed to ‘woo’ her but any sort of initmate contact made by him would be frowned upon. I’m not sure how it works if she were to show him affection in public… *stops rambling now*.)
Ah, good point, but then that would hinge upon how realistic Vikings in Httyd are in comparison to actual Vikings, and so far, most evidence seems to indicate they’re very different. Not to mention the fact that they have dragons and Hiccup has effectively trained his entire tribe to be peace loving (which is soooo different from real Vikings). So yeah, I’m just gonna assume the movie-verse follows modern, westernized mores of love and romance. ;)
Nope, viking birth control was virtually non-existant, if we want to take things in a more historically-correct POV.
Even the whole “courtship” thing was very, very dangerous for young suitors. Poetry was basically a death sentence (they believed it betwitched a woman and that only men who knew the woman intimately would write such things).
But of course, this is not 100% historically correct. Of it were, even their clothes would be different (the women would wear dresses outside of battle sitatuations). Also the hairstyles as well - Hiccup and Snotlout might wear theirs longer, though the Berkians don’t seem to have a tradition of keeping slaves. And it’s likely Hiccup wore his shorter because he was “the runt”.
Astrid might not have kissed Hiccup publically - three times! - or if she had (despite their young age) the village might have married them off soon. Yes, Vikings were known to marry as young as 14. Yikes.
Or not, they might tolerate their little romance anyway. But courtship wasn’t easy back then. XD they were very keen on honor.
Curious fact: Snotlout technically could get into a lot of trouble due to his persistant advances. :p
In any way, this isn’t 100% historically accurate… But they could get married for love - they seem to be pretty much enamored. Also it is a politically convenient marriage, Hiccup being the heir to Chieftainship and Astrid being… Astrid. Strong. Dedicated. Focused. Wide-hipped, good for birthing. Although I bet she has long-since loosened up, she’s still very driven and strong. Her house, Snotlout’s, Fishlegs’, the twins’, they’re nearest the Mead Hall so they may not be Jarls but they have somewhat of a privileged status.
Yeah, I think the Httyd courtship is a big clue to how different Vikings are in the movie-verse vs in real life. Hiccup and Astrid would not still be suitors at the age of 19/20. They’d be married and starting a family. All of their interactions in the movie mimic the behaviors and courting rituals of modern, non-Viking couples. Astrid kisses Hiccup freely in front of everyone with no consequence, Hiccup isn’t pressured to propose to her at the age of 15, and so forth and so on. For modern, non-Viking couples, they’re normal and would most likely be sexually active as well. So…that’s where I’m gonna stick my headcanon.
I agree with this (and they are finally at an age where I don’t feel like too much of a creeper speculating on their private life, boy that’s gonna make writing Hiccup/Astrid easier) and omg one of these days, I really want to write a giant essay on how Berk Vikings are absolutely unlike historical Vikings in like a million different ways, since that’s a popular take in fandom but it basically makes no sense from what we’ve seen. (And it bugs me that some people use it to reintroduce some insidious sexist ideas and stuff back into Berk society in their fics, which is kinda bleh, since they seem pretty egalitarian as long as you can properly lift an axe).
But yeah, I totally agree: If Berk Vikings followed actual Viking culture at all, than the Vikings wouldn’t have basically had the attitude of ‘geddit gurl’ and gone “wooooh” when Astrid smooched him in the first movie, because it would have been a social nono. Instead, they were more like ‘oh you crazy kids.’ Women didn’t have the worst rights in Norse society (better than quite a few societies at the time actually) but love was like not the deal for them, because marriage was much more of a legal/political arrangement.
And the horned helmets and spiky costumes alone tell us Berk Vikings aren’t like normal Vikings and are meant to be their own fictional culture. They look and act pretty much nothing like actual Vikings (I mean, Christ, Hiccup could walk right into a leather bar dressed like that) and don’t even celebrate the same holidays. (Snoggletog instead of a Yule Blot, for instance.) All they have are the same gods and the fact that they’re both pretty metal. Thassaboutit. A shared love of Led Zeppelin unites them, but nothing more.
I really don’t think the historical stuff applies and EVEN IF IT DID. when they have free reign to fly all over the place, what’s to stop them from flying off to some island somewhere with a fluffy blanket and a nice picnic basket and telling Toothless and Stormfly to go scarper and entertain themselves elsewhere on the island? They have the ability to fly, no adult supervision that we’ve ever seen, and two dragons that would probably be good, ahem, wingmen. (Geddit? See what I did there?) Those are primo circumstances for being a pair of horny teenagers. They can go do all the dos they want anywhere doing can be done. Real Vikings did. That’s why the scandals and poetry and all that existed - because even when shit was illegal and dangerous, young folks still sneaked around and did it anyway.
And they don’t really need birth control, ‘cause…well. There’s lots of doing that can be done that doesn’t involve babymakin’.
It probably just depends on where they are in their relationship because they are totally personal space invaders here but they’d also likely be that way as friends that had dated a while but had a very amicable breakup back to best friends. So it depends on if they’ve been a solid thing all these years.
If they have? Then it is most likely an affirmative: They did the do.
just realized hiccup was touching astrid’s arm and his expression was… ahem
Lawrence’s parents — her dad owned a construction business; the two now run a summer day camp-were initially less than thrilled with their daughter’s decision to become an actress.
When Lawrence was 14, she persuaded them to let her spend the summer in New York City going on auditions. As summer came to an end, her parents wanted her to come back home already. In the midst of their arguments, Lawrence happened to see a newspaper story about a boy from Kentucky starring in a new movie called Little Manhattan. “I was like, ‘Look, see? He’s from Kentucky and he made it’ I can do it too!’ And, weirdly, it helped them accept that this is what I wanted to do.”
That boy was Josh Hutcherson. In a nifty twist of fate, he’ll play Peeta, Lawrence’s favorite character from the Hunger Games trilogy.
(Jennifer in the EW Hunger Games issue)
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Probably a huge factor as to why she is so close with Josh. Talk about fate. How beautiful.